IRC log started Wed Mar  8 00:00:01 2000
[msg(TUNES)] permlog 2000.0308
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* Fufie/#tunes yawns
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<Kaufmann> Foo
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* Fufie/#tunes yawns
* Fare/#Tunes unyawns
<Fufie> how's life fare?
<Fare> not
<Fare> or half
<Fufie> ack.. any progress on the cooperation of the institutes you mentioned? (something about a common framework)
<Fufie> inria+some others
01:20pm
<Fare> I meet the inrians next wednesday
<Fare> but gotta show em my paper, which ain't written yet
<Fufie> know the feeling.. been trying to actually write some text for my thesis lately
01:30pm
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<Fare> t c b
<Fare> oops
<tcn> hey fare
<tcn> cookin dinner
04:00pm
<tcn> brb
04:10pm
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<tcn> no irc for me tonight
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04:40pm
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<water> hey
05:40pm
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<water> hi lar
<lar1> hey water!
<lar1> Hows it going?
<water> quiet on irc
<lar1> Hmm
<water> otherwise, same stuff
<lar1> I guess thats better then bad stuff :)
<water> sort of
<lar1> I got a bunch of 486es for free today
<water> machines or cpu's?
<lar1> Boxen
<lar1> No moniters though
<water> that's okay, just run headless linux boxes
<water> use telnet to get around
07:40pm
<lar1> Yeah.  I want to write somthing to allow them to pool resources or somthing
<lar1> Cluster them
<water> you could make a gaming network
<eihrul> compilation network...
<eihrul> parallel make
<water> hi eih
<water> where have you been?
<eihrul> good question
<lar1> Where _hasn't_ he been?
<water> hm well do you want to discuss anything?
<air> eihrul: how do i specify an 8bit, 16bit or 32bit number in C no matter what the word size of the system is?
<eihrul> well, in gcc (but not necessarily in all systems):
<eihrul> #include <stdint.h>
<eihrul> intN_t
<eihrul> but not all systems have it
<air> so there isnt a standard way?
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<eihrul> water: actually, going to go sleep
<water> damn
<eihrul> why?
<water> well you just showed up, for one
<lar1> going to sleep?? Its not even 8pm!
* eihrul/#tunes shrugs.
07:50pm
<eihrul> i haven't an idea of anything else to do... it just seemed appropriate
<lar1> Teach somthing to me or discuss somthing with water.  Code for dolphin.  Do somthing...
<air> code for openspace :)
<lar1> Heh
<lar1> No
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<water> air: yeah, Yet Another open source online space game
<lar1> YAOSOSG
<air> os is better than the others
<water> why not join them and improve them?
<air> like rares said it will be bigger than pokemon :)
<water> bah
<air> there is no game like os
<water> got a url?
<air> homeworld is the closest i have seen and it is not opensource
<air> www.qzx.com/openspace
<water> 90% of this has been done already in other open source space games
<air> name one
<water> and i doubt you have the coding resources (i.e. man-hours) to get it done
<water> go to dmoz and look up 3d games
<air> its actually easier than u think
<water> hold on, i'll get a url
08:00pm
<water> damn it i forget where i found it
<air> hah
<water> well i did find a directory of open source 3d graphics engine based net games
<air> oh because my game uses 3d means it has been done before!!!
<water> lol no
<air> this goes way beyond anything that has been done
<water> they had some really impressive graphics, scipting engines, ...
<water> you're ignorant, then
<air> u havent proved me wrong
<water> well i bet you can't name a competing idea
<air> competing idea?
<water> yes another 3d space game that is open-source
<air> quake
<lar1> Not a space game
<water> space gram?!?
<air> yer sure as shit not on earth :)
<lar1> water:  Its a space kilogram, accually :)
<lar1> air:  but you are on a planet... ;)
<air> so because my game is a '3d space game' means it has been done before?
<water> here's one: http://crystal.linuxgames.com/
<water> not as relevant as what i've seen
<water> i looked at your feature wish-list
<water> i've seen a very similar one by a project that's already near the 1.0 version
<air> quite convenient that u cant remember the url right? :)
<water> dude i look at 100's of sites
<water> http://www.zog.net.au/computers/obsidian/
<water> and it's been about 2 weeks since i even looked at these
<water> aha!
<air> uhh this crystal space is an engine not game
<water> www.parsec.org
<air> i have parsec, it is a flight simulator
<water> there's one with a lot of similarities
<air> and it is not opensource
<water> so?
08:10pm
<air> i am not doing a damn flight simulator
<air> parsec is like quake in space
<water> oh you're doing a kid's game
<air> do u have any idea what homeworld is?
<water> yes
<water> i've played it
<water> btw, why don't you borrow the parsec stuff?
<air> now imagine homeworld with scriptable ships and u can design and import yer own ships, a single game can go on forever with new technology being added by the server admins
<water> a lot of the high-level stuff will be free
<water> ooooooohh
* water/#tunes rolls his eyes
<air> parsec is like quake, i am doing doing a quake game
<water> you're better off trying to code tunes ;)
<air> actually its really easy to code this
<water> yeah when you get lots of little programmers to follow you
<air> the server uses forth as its internal scripting language and something that looks like lisp on the client side
<water> now go away
<water> this is #tunes
<air> u started it
<water> do i sound like i f***ing care?
<air> and now that i proved u wrong yer pissed  :)
<air> u couldnt find a game anything like what im goind
<air> doing
<water> yes i did
<air> no u didnt
<water> yes i did
<water> :)
<air> name one
<water> parsec
<water> and i guarantee others have games in the works like yours
<air> u obviously lied about playing homeworld then
<water> lol
<air> parsec is a first person shooter
<water> oic
<water> you're not doing first-person
<air> u are inside a single ship and u fly around killing others
<air> homeworld places u outside all yer ships
<water> yes i know
<air> u can build a fleet of ships 
<water> but you said it would be like quake
<water> ;)
<air> no i didnt
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<air> i will continue this when he comes back :)
<lar1> Heh
<air> oh yes, that 3d golf game made with the crystal space engine is almost exactly like openspace
08:20pm
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<air> ready to continue?
08:30pm
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<lar1> Hmm
10:10pm
<water> what?
<lar1> I had a thought a few minutes back, but I already dealt with it
10:30pm
<lar1> PA
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