IRC log started Fri Sep 17 00:00:01 1999
[msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.0917
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<Zhivago> hello :)
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<felex1> wuz up
<felex1> hey any body
<felex1> what the fuck chat with me
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<pyro> hey alonzo
<pyro> have you been paying attention to what's being done with rotaxane?
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<liar> eihrul: u here?
<eihrul> yep
<eihrul> got my task creation sys call done today...
<eihrul> the self-referencing page tables make it way too simple :)
<liar> i found a bug in bfe
<eihrul> in my code or yours? :)
<liar> in C
03:30pm
<eihrul> ummm... that doens't answer the question
<eihrul> there cannot be bugs in C as it's just a language
<liar> dr6 should be 0xffff0ff0 but it shows up as 0x7FFFFFFF and after i run brix cr0 should be 0x80000001 but it says 0x7FFFFFFF.
<liar> so the high numbers are being replaced
<liar> u used an unsigned and its suppose to be 32bit
<liar> so it has to be C
<eihrul> that's not a bug in C
<eihrul> remember... C is a specification!
<liar> C is broken
* eihrul/#tunes sighs...
<liar> gcc that is
<eihrul> you're pissing me off... but regardless
<eihrul> fscanf () is probably doing weird signy things 
<pyro> i've found a bug in GCC before
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<eihrul> that would probably not be a bug in GCC so much as fscanf ()
<liar> ya its a but in fscanf
<eihrul> or could even be incorrect usage on my part
<pyro> back to school, bin?
<liar> s/but/bug/
<binEng> yeah, pyro. Have we met, btw?
<eihrul> yep... it's incorrect usage
<pyro> C sucks
<liar> how?
<pyro> GCC is a pig
<eihrul> %i is for signed integers
<eihrul> even if they are specified in hex format
<pyro> binEng: yeah, I'm tcn
<eihrul> i'll fix it
<binEng> ok
<liar> what should it be?
<binEng> pyro: so how come you're pyro? :)
<liar> bbiaf
<eihrul> that's not easy... because only %i parses it correctly
<eihrul> though i wonder if %u might work
<pyro> binEng: I felt like using a nick.. and I like fire :)
<binEng> heh
<pyro> I used to make rockets and stuff
<binEng> really?
<pyro> yeah, get some saltpetre, sulfur and sugar or charcoal
<pyro> that's good for "small" rockets
<binEng> um.. I think I'll just stick with computers.. seems safer ;)
<eihrul> ah, %x works
<pyro> well.. when I started the best computer available was a 286.. and rockets were a lot cheaper and more exciting
03:40pm
<pyro> (actually Amigas were the best available but we didn't have one)
<binEng> since then, computer performance has rocketed. kinda.
<pyro> bad pun, dude
<binEng> i know, i know
<binEng> but it had to be said
<eihrul> liar: i fixed it, man... just had to stick %x in a few select places
<pyro> well, I'm doing ftp'ing... time to install linux on this box
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03:50pm
<AlonzoTG> om
<eihrul> om?
<eihrul> abi: om?
<abi> eihrul: i haven't a clue
<AlonzoTG> honkles
<AlonzoTG> I added a paper to my website
<AlonzoTG> to the universal language project.
04:00pm
<eihrul> you have lots of projects, huh?
04:40pm
<liar> i dont think nasm 0.94 supported them
<liar> oops
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<lar1> Hey
<Tril> ..
06:00pm
<lar1> Tril:  You there?
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<lar1> Hey hcf
06:30pm
<hcf> hey
<liar> lar1: u see the new bfe?
<liar> hcf: do u know howto find out what header file F_SETSIG is in?
<lar1> liar:  No, it is on the page?
<hcf> liar: its a part of what?
<liar> lar1: ya just reload the page to see the pic
<liar> i guess fcntl
<liar> but i included fcntl.h
<liar>         fcntl(fileno(readpipe), F_SETSIG, 1);
<liar> eihrul just gave me the functions and then left
<eihrul> i'm here
<liar> where is setsig from?
<eihrul> F_SETSIG is in fcntl.h
<eihrul> or rather, in <bits/fcntl.h> included from there
<eihrul> damn, i hate running out of registers
<liar> crap if i include <bits/fcntl.h> i get errors cuz it conflicts with <fcntl.h>
<liar>  /usr/include/bits/fcntl.h:21: #error "Never use <bits/fcntl.h> directly; include <fcntl.h> in
<eihrul> you should just be able to include <fcntl.h>
<liar> i included fcntl and it found setown, but not setsig
<liar> hmm setsig IS in the fcntl man
<liar> if i want to send a SIGIO shouldnt that 1 be a 0
<liar> ?
06:40pm
<liar> OUCH! setown is bsd/linux only and setsig is linux only
<liar> this is non-portable code
<eihrul> there's a way to do it with ioctl... hold on
<lar1> liar:  Wow... bfe is looking good!
<eihrul> i'll bust out UNP
<liar> lar1: u like my quit button? :)
<lar1> Its... uhhh... very attractive to the eye :)
<liar> i got the idea from ddj
<liar> input field behind the button to make it a flush 3d button
<liar> eihrul: gtk has an iocallback and i think xforms does too
<eihrul> ah, found it
<eihrul> probably, but you can do it the fun way with SIGIO :)
<eihrul> okay...
<eihrul> do it with ioctl thusly:
<eihrul> int tmp; tmp = getpid (); ioctl (fileno (readipe), FIOSETOWN, & tmp); tmp = 1; ioctl (fileno (readpipe), FIOASYNC, & tmp);
06:50pm
<liar> and that will signal on sigio?
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<eihrul> yeah
07:00pm
<AlonzoTG> *BOOM*
<eihrul> though at this point, might be more portable to use polling provided by xforms
<eihrul> if it does
<liar> ok where is ioctl?
<eihrul> use the xforms io callbacks dude :)
<lar1> Tril, hcf: Care to discuss the review project with me?
<hcf> lar1: what of it?
<lar1> hcf:  What should happen once all the info is cleaned and put into a db?
<hcf> "cleaned"?
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<liar> is there a signal sent for a segfault?
<lar1> hcf:  Sorted though, any mistakes fixed, updated (if needed), add a little more reviewing perhaps...
<liar> btw xforms does it much nicer than fcntl or ioctl:         fl_add_signal_callback(SIGIO, sigio_handler, NULL);
<lar1> hcf:  If it is nesscary
<lar1> hcf:  Perhaps add a script to parse people's pages for current news
<liar> oops oh crap
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<eihrul> i think ya mean fl_add_io_callback ()
<liar> ya
<hcf> lar1: perhaps
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<lar1> hcf:  But what should happen after all the data is in db form?
<eihrul> liar: there... converted threads to only use 256 bytes... 16 per page
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07:10pm
<liar> YES! when u press go and it finds a breakpoint it will auto stop and update registers :)
<liar> i need to make it flash that breakpoint entry so u know what breakpoint it stopped at
<lar1> Be back
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<eihrul> bbiab
07:20pm
<liar> anyone know howto unhook a signal handler?
07:30pm
<liar> hcf: is there a sleep(0 command that sleeps for less than 1 second?
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<liar> pyro: is there a function to sleep for less than 1 second?
<pyro> usleep?
<pyro> I think that's the name
<pyro> yup
<liar> ah thanks
<pyro> hehe.. cute, usleep says "see also: sleep" but sleep doesn't say "see: usleep"
<pyro> it might only be accurate to a few milliseconds
<liar> i need 100ms
<pyro> whoa.. hehe. I thought my clock was off cause BitchX says it's off.. but I'm on bespin.cx
07:40pm
<liar> bx says its 2:43am 
<liar> so does netscape
<liar> i thinks its cuz i have glibc2.1 and they are both libc5 apps
<liar> ugh, i tried to make the breakpoint flash by selecteding/deselecting it over and over but xforms wont work that fast
<pyro> heh
<pyro> hey, I can run q3test finally
<liar> any good?
07:50pm
<pyro> haven't tried it yet
<pyro> hmm, if I need a voodoo 3d card I can't
<pyro> but dammit, I have a K6-II, it should be fast!
<liar> hehe
<liar> man, my friend let me borrow his riva tnt (1 not 2) and i played halflife with it in 1280x1024 and it was FAST
<pyro> holy shit :)
<liar> i cant even imagine how fast the tnt2 ultra or v3d are
<pyro> jesus
<liar> i dont think i would even be able to tell if they were faster
<pyro> this box can do 640x480 good, from the few things I've tried so far
<pyro> 3D taht is
<liar> well i have a monter3d (voodoo1) and run at 640x480 and its fast, but the riva was faster in 1280 than my m3d is in 640
<liar> i would really like a tnt1 or tnt2u if they made it just an accelerator
<liar> btw im talking about windows speeds here, not some window in linux/X
<eihrul> supposedly xfree 4.0 is supposed to help that... supposedly
08:00pm
<liar> ya so i heard
<pyro> X sucks
<pyro> 70 megs, for what?
<liar> ugh, bochs wont get memory at a virtual address
<liar> any ideas howto convert a virtual addr to linear?
<eihrul> umm, why won't it?
<liar> it will only dump linear or physical
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<eihrul> you sure?
<varley> hehe
<varley> why'd it give me the nick 'varley'? that's my server
<liar> eihrul: yep
<liar> heh
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<liar> tcn: its an easter egg and lilo said the user that gets it will win a p2 system
<tcn> what?
<liar> brb
<tcn> OPN can afford that? :)
<pyro> ok, I see what's going on
<eihrul> liar: looks like you might need to make hack some stuff into bochs...
<pyro> cool, this box compiles linux in 6 minutes
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<tcn> fbdev is cool
08:30pm
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<liar> eihrul: why dont u write a patch for bochs and give it to kevin :)
<eihrul> gah...
08:40pm
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<liar> will "%*s  %*s %x" work for "0x181ff0 <bogus+0>:     0x00400000"?
<liar> ugh
<eihrul> it should
<liar> k
09:00pm
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<liar> hey kor
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09:10pm
<kor> hey
09:30pm
<liar> do u use a list of empty memory blocks to allocate ram?
<liar> ugh again
10:00pm
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