IRC log started Wed Jan  6 00:00:00 1999
<lar1> Ummm, ATV is 4Mhz...
<_QZ> u need a multi ghz xmitter
<_QZ> atv?
<abi> atv is 4Mhz...
<_QZ> abi: forget atv
<abi> _QZ: I forgot atv
<lar1> "Ham TV"
[msg(TUNES)] permlog 1999.0106
<_QZ> well that still doesnt give u 10mhz
<lar1> Hmmm
<lar1> I rather wanted to avoid microwave...
<_QZ> u would need to use a bit splitter to ride the signal over 3 channels
<_QZ> and then recombine the signal at the other end
<lar1> Can I slow down the Eathernet signal?
<_QZ> not to mention u need full duplex
<_QZ> that means u need 20mhz
<_QZ> NO
<_QZ> if u wanna send ethernet u need a 20mhz channel
<_QZ> and u can sitck it into yer mic input
<_QZ> er
<lar1> Uhhh, nevermind about the mic...
<_QZ> u can NOT stick it into yer mic input
<lar1> That would be at 144Mhz
<_QZ> what
<lar1> The radios with the mic input I was talking about, would be around 144Mhz
<_QZ> 144mhz for what
<lar1> Transmitting/receiving
<_QZ> thats right above fm channels
<lar1> Yup, 2meters
<_QZ> yer looking at 200khz
<lar1> So I need to design a full-duplex 4Ghz radio?
<_QZ> why do u wanna do this?
<lar1> So I can link my network with a friends...
<_QZ> how far away?
<lar1> Couple miles
<_QZ> bummer
<_QZ> sorry no can do
<lar1> What at microwave?
<_QZ> fcc regulation says hobby radios cant xmit over 1/4 mile
<lar1> Uhhhh, no
<lar1> On 10Meters, hams transmist all over the world
<_QZ> u will need to license a channel in the gigahertz range
<_QZ> nono
<lar1> at 2 meters has go 50+ miles
<_QZ> ham is not hobby
<lar1> Well, fine.
<_QZ> u need a license to use ham
<lar1> I have a license
<lar1> KF6SLW
<_QZ> ham has channels preallocated for it
<lar1> And so does my friend
12:10am
<_QZ> U WILL NEED TO ***BUY*** CHANNEL SPACE FROM THE FCC
<lar1> Why? I have privliges in that range...
<_QZ> u have a ham license and dont know the bandwidth of a ham channel?
<_QZ> do they not make u take tests anymore?
<lar1> Ummm, yes there are tests...
<lar1> For the licence I have I just don't take a _really_ techniall one
<lar1> Technical even
<_QZ> well think about this
<_QZ> human speech requires a 20khz bandwidth
<lar1> Right
<_QZ> deep voices are in the 500-1000hz area
<_QZ> and high pitch is around 15k
<_QZ> human hearing stops at 18k
<_QZ> cept for a select few that can go upto 40k
<lar1> 40! WOW!
<_QZ> ofcourse they cant be in rooms with tvs cuz they can hear the refresh signal on the tv 
<_QZ> since most "normal speech" is below 3000hz the fone company gave each channel a 3k bandwidth
<_QZ> so anything about 3k gets cut off 
<lar1> So, anything in the range 500Hz-3Khz doesn't get cut?
<_QZ> u cant sing opera in the fone and break glasses at the other end
<_QZ> ya its actually 3.3k
<_QZ> to be precise
<lar1> 3000Hz = 3.3Khz??
<_QZ> no but the .3 is not important
<lar1> Ah
<_QZ> and is 2 extra letters to type
<_QZ> now
12:20am
<lar1> Yah?
<_QZ> uhh i cant think right now
<_QZ> too tired
<lar1> Uhhh, thats ok, neither can I.
<lar1> What is the frquency of TV refresh?  Is that the same as color burst?
<_QZ> its around 39khz for the horizontal refresh and 60hz for the vertical
<lar1> Ah
<_QZ> monitors also use 39khz for low resolutions
<_QZ> like 640x480
<_QZ> my monitor is at 1600x1200 and 81khz
<lar1> Geez.... how big is that moniter? 
<_QZ> 17"
<_QZ> my monitor?
<abi> rumour has it my monitor is at 1600x1200 and 81khz
<_QZ> abi: forget my monitor
<abi> _QZ, I didn't have anything matching my monitor
<lar1> abi: forget my monitor
<_QZ> hmm
<abi> lar1, I didn't have anything matching my monitor
12:30am
<_QZ> abi: forget "my monitor"
<abi> _QZ, I didn't have anything matching "my monitor"
<_QZ> monitor?
<_QZ> my?
<_QZ> stupid bot
<_QZ> abi is also a stupid bot
<abi> okay, _QZ.
<lar1> abi: my monitor?
<abi> i haven't a clue, lar1
<_QZ> my monitor?
<abi> hmmm... my monitor is at 1600x1200 and 81khz
<_QZ> whois abi?
<abi> i am the little girl borg with a big brain or in perl or a stupid bot
<lar1> Thats interesting...
<lar1> abi: abi is also silly
<abi> okay, lar1.
<lar1> abi: abi is also crazy
<abi> okay, lar1.
<_QZ> whois abi?
<abi> rumour has it i am the little girl borg with a big brain or in perl or a stupid bot or silly or crazy or a little slut
<_QZ> :)
<lar1> You added the slut part I gather?
<_QZ> who me? :)
<lar1> Umm, who is TUNES?
<abi> TUNES is, like, in my head
<_QZ> what substances are non toxic, non metallic and have magnetic properties?
<lar1> Umm, nothing?
<abi> rumour has it nothing is wrong with brix
<lar1> abi:  BRiX?
<abi> BRiX is a free portable protected preemptive pervasive-multithreading multiuser object-oriented high-speed distributed operating system located at http://www.qzx.com/brix
<_QZ> nothing?
<abi> nothing is, like, wrong with brix
<_QZ> abi: forget nothing
<abi> _QZ: I forgot nothing
<lar1> What tz are you in?
<_QZ> gmt
<_QZ> er
<_QZ> mst
<_QZ> mountain
<lar1> That is +1hr PST, or +2?
<_QZ> 1
<_QZ> i wonder if iron particles would scratch a lens
<_QZ> ya think?
<lar1> Probably...
<_QZ> damn
<lar1> What are you trying to do?
<_QZ> magnetize a paintball
<_QZ> and make a magnetic barrel
<_QZ> the ball would float thru the middle of the barrel
<_QZ> not touching the side
12:40am
<_QZ> and if the magnets were angled they could help propell the ball faster
<lar1> So what lens is there to scratch?
<_QZ> goggles
<lar1> Don't shoot the people in the goggles then...
<_QZ> would iron particles be toxic?
<_QZ> cuz u can also eat paint in games
<_QZ> i ate a ball once, nasty tasting
<lar1> Who the hell would want to eat paint?
<_QZ> no, it hits the mask and shoots into yer mouth
<lar1> I imagine it would be non-toxic...
<_QZ> there are small vent holes in the mask
<lar1> Hmm
<_QZ> is it safe to eat iron filings?
<lar1> I dunno, I don't see why not...
<_QZ> uhh
<lar1> Its the same stuff in your Cheerios, right?  Just not all mixed up... ;)
<_QZ> maybe i could use a superconducting ceramic in the balls and freeze them with n2 in the hopper
<_QZ> no
<_QZ> the mineral iron is not the same
<lar1> I have seen lotsa things intended for childern that don't say "EAT and DIE!"
<lar1> (with iron filings)
<lar1> What is the time difference between PST and GMT?
12:50am
<lar1> Well, I need to be off to bed... later
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<hcf> hmm
09:40am
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<hcf> hoy Tril
<Tril> hello...
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<hcf> simplistic_ircstats:
<hcf> based on bespin's /pub/tunes/irc/19* ~at [Tue Jan 5 22:58:47 PST 1999] using just the <begin_of_line><nick> lines, no /me lines. there
<hcf> were 9203 lines; 2215 from <Tril> + <Tryl> + <TUNES>, 1057 from <hcf>, 0948 from <tcn>, 0892 from <_QZ>, 0849 from <binEng> + <binEng2>.
<binEng> nice
10:30am
<binEng> how did u calculate that?
<hcf> binEng: it says how
<hcf> add all like ^<nick> lines
<binEng> "it"?
<hcf> 'it' being the "based on" line i said
<hcf> using just the <begin_of_line><nick> lines, no /me lines
10:40am
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<binEng2> I don't understand what's wrong with my ISP...
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<Tril> for x in hcf tril binEng;do grep -i "^<$x>" 19*|wc;done
<binEng> that's what I was looking for. tnx
<hcf> i didnt do it that way tho
<binEng> Hey, how about getting .plan's? All of us ;)
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<hcf> i hav the complete list of all the nicks appearing, from Tril to Telepathi
<hcf> (occuring most (to) occuring least)
<binEng> so where did you get that list, then?
<hcf> binEng: i generated the list
<binEng> ok. How?
<hcf> why does it matter?
<binEng> it doesn't matter :) You just said you did it differently.
<binEng> abi: bespin?
<abi> somebody said bespin was in bellingham,WA. We'll probably be bespin.nas.com after ml.org goes down
<hcf> something like `cat 19* | colrm 20 | grep '^<' > poop
<hcf> then i dealt w/ poop by hand, cos i felt like it
<binEng> :)
<hcf> its a one time thing
<binEng> well. I gonna tell you something... I don't know these UNIX commands. :(
<hcf> doing ircstats for #tunes on a regular basis would be a tad bit too obsessive
10:50am
<hcf> which ones of what i said i used dont u understand?
<binEng> You know, since I'm not *regulary* using UNIX, I've never... kinda learned anything. Or nothing 'advanced' at least...
<hcf> advanced is a relative term
<binEng> Well, see me as a UNIX newbie.
<binEng> I've only read about how UNIX works. Not much practical experience with it.
<hcf> binEng: do u hav a bespin account?
11:00am
<binEng> nope
<hcf> i thot the idea was, finger <person>@bespin.ml.org for their .plan/.project
<hcf> binEng: how can one finger u?
<binEng> Can you explain for me how finger works? Please?
<hcf> abi: foldoc for finger
<abi> finger may be sought in foldoc at http://wombat.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?query=finger
<hcf> binEng: read that page
<binEng> will do
<hcf> for more info, see http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/signature_finger_faq/faq.html
<binEng> File Not Found
<hcf> k, goto www.faqs.org
<hcf> goto search
<hcf> put in finger
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<hcf> hoy Nater1464
π hcf/#tunes is back
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<tcn> hello.. anyone awake?
π hcf/#tunes is
<hcf> sup?
<abi> awwwwwwwww yeahhh...
<tcn> haha
02:00pm
<hcf> what is up?
<abi> well, up is underground piano
<hcf> tcn\?
<tcn> Oh, working on a v86 handler
<tcn> My prototype is really getting underway now
<hcf> ul be able to make the meeting time rite?
<tcn> Yeah, I think so, or maybe I'll be a little late
<tcn> 10pm Friday, right? If we wrap up band practice by then.
<hcf> friday 2300 gmt -> 10pm for u?
<hcf> u hav a band?
<tcn> Yeah, I'm the guitarist
<hcf> what kinda music?
<tcn> Rock! And a little samba, flamenco, dance, etc..
<tcn> hehe.. I'm trying to figure out what Transmaniacon MC is about
02:10pm
<tcn> abi, wtf is a transmaniacon? go figure..
<abi> tcn: wish i knew
<hcf> by the alta hits, it has something to do w/ blue oyster cult
<tcn> Yeah.. I just found lyrics for it.. I thought it was about vampire or something, but it could be about bikers..
<tcn> You know where Altamont is?
<hcf> nope
<hcf> heard the story tho
<hcf> bikers as security == bad idea
<tcn> Is that where a Hell's Angel stabbed a guy at a Stones concert?
<hcf> yep
<tcn> cool, we figured it out
π hcf/#tunes saw something on vh1 about it
<hcf> "Originally appeared on the album Blue Oyster Cult (Columbia Records - 1972). If you don't own this album you know NOTHING about rock!!"
<hcf> --http://www.hooked.net/users/umlaut/page5.htm
<tcn> Transmaniacon kicks ass.. I wanna cover that song..
02:20pm
<tcn> Was BOC a Canadian band?
<hcf> bugger all, i dont know ;)
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<macgyver> Hi, all !!!!!
<tcn> hey
<abi> niihau, tcn
<macgyver> I have some problem on protected mode ???
<macgyver> can someone help me ??
<tcn> Umm, sure, I just got it working :)
<hcf> r the excessive question marks /really/ necessary?
<macgyver> I got it working too !!, but I changed the code ...
<macgyver> I made a binary file, to read the kernel from the floppy disk and put it on memory, then I switch to PMODE and do a FAR JMP to that location, so it reboots !!
02:30pm
<macgyver> ???
<tcn> Hmm.. probably an addressing problem.. that happened to me.
<tcn> Boot sector loads at 0x7C00 (absolute address)
<macgyver> yes
<tcn> It's bigger than 1 sector, right? How do you load rest of the kernel?
<macgyver> I made one file to the boot loader and other file to the kernel...
<tcn> You mean DOS files, like in John Fine's examples?
<macgyver> the boot loader is at 1st sector of floppy disk and the kernel is at the 2nd sector
<macgyver> yes
<tcn> oh ok. You just load the kernel starting at 7E00?
<macgyver> no, the kernel will be at 0x10000 (65536)
<macgyver> and I will run it there 
<tcn> Like Linux. Well, as long as you know where it is :)
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<tcn> hey QZ
<_QZ> hey tcn
<tcn> mac: What assembler are you using?
<macgyver> but I dont know if the problem is in real mode and protected mode addresses
<macgyver> nasm on linux !!
<tcn> same here, ok.
<tcn> btw, bochs might help..
<tcn> abi, bochs?
<abi> hmmm... bochs is sloooooooooow or at http://www.bochs.com
<tcn> Make a .LST file and look at it.. see if the addresses are right in the GDT.
<macgyver> How can I do that with nasm ??
<tcn> Just add "-l file.lst" as an option
<_QZ> abi: no, bochs is a PC emulator at http://www.bochs.com that runs on win9x and un*x platforms. it is a good, but slow, way to debug OSes.
<_QZ> bochs?
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<abi> okay, _QZ.
<abi> bochs is a PC emulator at http://www.bochs.com that runs on win9x and un*x platforms. it is a good, but slow, way to debug OSes.
<tcn> mac, are you just using 2 segments? (4GB code and 4GB data)
02:40pm
<macgyver> abi: PC emulator , I think I like it !!
<tcn> abi's a bot
<macgyver> yes
<macgyver> Can I test my files with it, no reboot ??
<tcn> yeah
<tcn> It's cool.
<macgyver> great
<tcn> When I ran it and looked at the registers when my program crashed, I realized it was working better than I thought, just one little problem.
<tcn> mac, do you have anything in the IDT?
<macgyver> yes, 0 0
<hcf> _QZ: do u still think abi shouldnt contain bad words?
<_QZ> ya
<hcf> shouldnt abi mirror the #tunes community?
<hcf> like the web mirrors society
<macgyver> Where is the PC EMULATOR ??
<tcn> mac: In the IDTR, you mean? No IDT, in other words..?
<_QZ> abi shold represent us and if abi is saying bad stuff cuz we said it then it makes us look bad
<macgyver> yes
<hcf> _QZ: then we shoudnt say bad stuff
<tcn> abi, bochs? 
<abi> bochs is probably a PC emulator at http://www.bochs.com that runs on win9x and un*x platforms. it is a good, but slow, way to debug OSes.
<_QZ> hcf: no abi should watch our backs :)
<hcf> _QZ: censor thyself
<macgyver> I cann't access the page, why ?? can you try if..??
<tcn> QZ, people have other ways of seeing if we have bad mouths, like the IRC logs on tunes.org, or just lurking here..
<_QZ> my monitor?
<abi> hmmm... my monitor is at 1600x1200 and 81khz
<_QZ> hcf: how do i remove that
<_QZ> abi forget my monitor
<abi> _QZ, I didn't have anything matching my monitor
<_QZ> abi dont know about it
<_QZ> BUG???
<abi> no idea, _qz
<hcf> abi: forget _QZ's monitor
<abi> hcf: I forgot _qz's monitor
<_QZ> wtf?
<abi> wtf is, like, the sky blue
<hcf> abi has bugs, but that aint one of em
<tcn> forget wtf
<abi> tcn: I forgot where
<_QZ> so it converts "my" to the person who said it?
<hcf> _QZ: basically
<_QZ> kewl
<tcn> mac: I guess bochs.com is down at the moment.
<macgyver> yes, pehraps
02:50pm
<tcn> lesse, here's how I get to pmode: cli, lgdt, lidt, set the PE bit in CR0, and jmp dword flat_data:start32
<_QZ> Ways out of those pesky tickets
<_QZ> 10. Didn't I see you get your butt kicked on COPS?
<_QZ> :)
<_QZ> ya that'll get u outta a ticket
<tcn> haha
<macgyver> yes I do that too !!
<_QZ> more like "Ways to repeat the Rodney Kind incident"
<_QZ> s/kind/king/
<tcn> mac, what's in your GDT?
<_QZ> tcn: do u align yer psuedo-descriptors?
<macgyver> tcn , I allready had protected mode, but the code was changed !!
<_QZ> odd-word alignment
<tcn> qz: that could screw it up, yeah
<macgyver> no I did aligned !!
<_QZ> macgyver: how
<macgyver> no I didnt alihned !!
<macgyver> simple didnt!!
<macgyver> it worked !!
<macgyver> Eih!! you have that PC EMULATOR ??
<macgyver> can you send me ??
<macgyver> for LINUX!!
<tcn> Yeah, It's 456 K.. that small enough to DCC?
<macgyver> yup!!
<macgyver> try it!!
<macgyver> you have ftp ??
<tcn> hmmm
<macgyver> tcn ??
<_QZ> where did u put yer psuedo-descriptors?
<_QZ> at what address
<macgyver> I simple put the descriptors in the GDT table !!
<macgyver> tcn : ??
<macgyver> you have the PC EMULATOR on /pub , tcn??
<tcn> Allright mac.. it'll work. ftp to 209.150.250.82 an it's in the root dir.
03:00pm
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<_QZ> accept the dcc
<macgyver> allright tcn, it is ftping!!
<tcn> yup. Hey, it slowed down.. wtf?
<macgyver> tcn : tell me more about the PC EMULATOR
<tcn> mac: There's not much to it. Just untar it, ./configure --with-x11 --with-debugger, make
<tcn> then you can move 'bochs' to /usr/local/bin or whereever, and copy .bochsrc to the directory where your program is
<tcn> Then customize .bochsrc
<macgyver> but it reallty makes a virtual reboot ??
<macgyver> and it shows the registers ??
<tcn> yeah, it emulates EVERYTHING. That's why it's so slow, too
<macgyver> even protected mode ??
<tcn> yeah
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<tcn> Is it done FTPing already?
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<tcn> I couldn't get bochs to compile with the disassembler or instrumentation panel.. I think those are incomplete
<macgyver> ok thanks tcn, I have to disconnect...
<tcn> yup, good luck
<macgyver> only one thing How I compile it ??
<macgyver> I did "configure"
<tcn> I just told ya.   make
<tcn> Hey, I didn't have my GDT aligned either! It was just aligned by chance..
03:10pm
<tcn> dinner
<tcn> bye
<macgyver> oh, ok tcn, now I had to go, bye
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<macgyver> see you soon 
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<lar1> Yo!
<hcf> hoy lar1
<lar1> What is the time dfference between GMT and PST?
<hcf> 8hrs i thing
<hcf> k
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<hcf> 2300gmt=>3pmPST
<lar1> Ok
<lar1> Where did the topic go?
<hcf> which one?
<lar1> Oh crap!  I wont beable to get here until 4:00...
<lar1> There is no topic right now... is there?
<hcf> TUNES project <www2.tunes.org>. Site layout meeting on Friday, 23:00 GMT -binEng.    <lar1> Its good to be a tunes member!'
<lar1> Hmmm, I don't see it... damn m$
<hcf> mirc isnt m$
<lar1> Yah, but it runs in m$...
04:50pm
<hcf> its probly not m$'s or mirc's fault
<hcf> its probly cos'd by a desync
<lar1> Well either way it still happened in windows ;)
<lar1> BRB
<hcf> u noticed it in windows, just like u'd notice it in linux or anything
<_QZ> 12. Is it true that people become cops because they're too dumb to work at McDonalds?
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<lar1_psuedo_away> If anyone needs me, just give a holler
05:10pm
<lar1_psuedo_away> _QZ:  Do you play guitar?
<_QZ> no
<_QZ> 23:00 gmt is 4pm here
<_QZ> that time is not within my toafm
<lar1_psuedo_away> I'll have to come an hour late.... :(
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<lar1_psuedo_away> Hey tcn
<tcn> hey
<lar1_psuedo_away> I am working on that code...
<tcn> I'm doing pretty good on this PMODE thing.. 
<lar1_psuedo_away> Ya me too
<tcn> Whatcha got so far? I'm working on the V86 handler (for calling the BIOS from pmode)
<lar1_psuedo_away> I am about half done on raw Pmode...
<lar1_psuedo_away> Moer like 2/3 done
<tcn> Well they always say it's the last 5% that takes forever :)
<lar1_psuedo_away> Yup
<lar1_psuedo_away> This is for tunes right?  Cause Tril is saying that tunes doen't need "low-level chip specific" code yet...
<tcn> Hey, macgyver got his working today too.. his problem was that the GDT started on an odd address.. a 'align 2' fixed it..
<lar1_psuedo_away> Cool
<tcn> It's for a Tunes *prototype*.
<lar1_psuedo_away> Hmmm ok...
<tcn> Some people in Tunes want to design everything before starting the implementation... 
<tcn> And some of us wanna get our hands dirty ;)
<lar1_psuedo_away> I vote for the hands dirty!
<lar1_psuedo_away> I got plenty of soap and water... doesn't dirt phase me much ;)
05:50pm
<lar1_psuedo_away> Hmm, I have to go, I'll be back later.
<tcn> later.
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<tcn> my toafm?
<abi> tcn, your toafm is Wed-Thu 2100-0300 GMT, Fri 2300-0500 GMT, Sat-Sun 1500-0500 GMT
<tcn> ok, that's right
<tcn> except for Friday
<tcn> no, my toafm is Wed/Thu 2100-0300, Fri 2100-0700, Sat 1500-0700, Sun 1500-0300 GMT
<tcn> abi, my toafm?
<abi> tcn, your toafm is Wed-Thu 2100-0300 GMT, Fri 2300-0500 GMT, Sat-Sun 1500-0500 GMT
<tcn> abi: no,  my toafm is Wed/Thu 2100-0300, Fri 2100-0700, Sat 1500-0700, Sun 1500-0300 GMT
<abi> okay, tcn.
<tcn> my toafm?
<abi> tcn, your toafm is, like, Wed/Thu 2100-0300, Fri 2100-0700, Sat 1500-0700, Sun 1500-0300 GMT
<tcn> abi?
<abi> tcn?
<tcn> what's abi?
<abi> i think i am the little girl borg with a big brain or in perl or a stupid bot or silly or crazy or a little slut or cheese
<tcn> That's more like it.. good job, _QZ..
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<tcn> Hello....
09:10pm
<tcn> sup!!!!
<tcn> sup?
<abi> awwwwwwwww yeahhh...
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<_QZ> abi you the bitch
<_QZ> abi is also a biotch
<abi> okay, _QZ.
09:30pm
<tcn> howdy
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<tcn> hey
<_QZ> hmm
<tcn> Damn TUNES is disorganized!!
<_QZ> i am getting pause lag from my modem to isp
<_QZ> hmm can u connect to ftp.enlightenment.org?
<tcn> They had stuff about Forth, Protected Mode, stuff like we're talking about now, on their mailing list in 1996 and 97, and never mentioned it on the web pages or anything
<tcn> abi, what's enlightenment?
<abi> no idea, tcn
<tcn> I thought you said it was a sloooooooooooow window manager
<tcn> Nope, can't connect.
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<Tril> I think we should have an automated system to handle the subprojects.
<Tril> I'm designing one. It will just have the essentials: the skeleton of projects and who is involved.
<Tril> it will be useful for other things than just tunes
<Tril> anyway no one is around.. i'll be back tomorrow feel free to email me about any coordinating suggestions, I'll act as Beholder's lieutenant
<Tril> I seem to have more free time than he
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